tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post6888833643874282456..comments2024-01-12T00:35:16.941+01:00Comments on French Leave: French, the language of diplomacythe fly in the webhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-12427812194542763872010-09-13T18:22:26.768+02:002010-09-13T18:22:26.768+02:00nodamnblog...it was a viewpoint which would never ...nodamnblog...it was a viewpoint which would never have occurred to me either.<br /><br />Sarah, French mothers have a lot to answer for, i feel.the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-28062342673106676522010-09-13T09:58:53.263+02:002010-09-13T09:58:53.263+02:00I think my ex-h is the rudest person I've ever...I think my ex-h is the rudest person I've ever come across. He's French. A lot of it stems from his inviolable impression of himself as centre of the universe so feels entitled to sail through life unthwarted. As this is a silly approach he gets greatly frustrated and lashes out verbally.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13195684182481935384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-79008776344922868922010-09-12T21:11:52.384+02:002010-09-12T21:11:52.384+02:00That's French wisdom for you! It hadn't oc...That's French wisdom for you! It hadn't occurred to me, but of course, your friend was quite right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-69798792561990161362010-09-12T14:58:27.818+02:002010-09-12T14:58:27.818+02:00nodamnblog, the telephone thing is infuriating.
I ...nodamnblog, the telephone thing is infuriating.<br />I was shopping with an elderly French friend once when we met with this and I was about to dump our purchases and leave.<br />She was astonished!<br />After all, as she pointed out, the girl couldn't give a damn whether we bought anything or not, so the gesture wouldn't hurt her and the boss would never learn of it anyway!the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-57737395981835640072010-09-12T11:37:44.119+02:002010-09-12T11:37:44.119+02:00What a horrible experience for you and Mr Fly.
L...What a horrible experience for you and Mr Fly. <br /><br />Luckily I am able to say that so far, in the fifteen years we've lived in deepest France, we've very rarely met any outright, deliberate rudeness except from a salesman in Planete Saturn, one in Leclerc and one in Geant. <br /><br />On the other hand, the custom of shop assistants and cashiers answering and engaging in unnecessarily prolonged telephone calls whilst they are in the middle of serving you drives me potty. Hasn't anybody explained to them that they can say "Just one moment, please," into the telephone while they hand you your change, or receipt, so that you are not obliged to wait 20 minutes while they concentrate on the caller? Does that count as rudeness, plain ignorance, or are we Brits too impatient?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-39816722280382907632010-09-10T23:50:23.814+02:002010-09-10T23:50:23.814+02:00Pueblo girl, Basura indeed!
There seems to be a ce...Pueblo girl, Basura indeed!<br />There seems to be a certain type who think that you the foreigner, know nothing and can be walked all over.....and are, as you say, deeply offended when they find that not to be the case!the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-67717358249300052092010-09-10T23:46:05.096+02:002010-09-10T23:46:05.096+02:00Oh, I recognise the type all right - the kind who ...Oh, I recognise the type all right - the kind who are deeply offended by foreigners standing up for themselves in the other's country. Basura.Pueblo girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04904318623281033442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-35466983964196605502010-09-10T23:30:51.204+02:002010-09-10T23:30:51.204+02:00Pueblo girl, yes, thank you...we were. Just a bit ...Pueblo girl, yes, thank you...we were. Just a bit shaken up, that's all.<br /><br />But thinking of other incidents over the years they happen when we have been standing our ground over something or other...and that seems to drive a certain type wild!the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-32250273466165297552010-09-10T22:28:11.996+02:002010-09-10T22:28:11.996+02:00I hope Mr Fly - and you - were OK after that. Ple...I hope Mr Fly - and you - were OK after that. Pleae excuse possibly dodgy grammar.Pueblo girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04904318623281033442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-48367054994785740272010-09-10T17:44:24.478+02:002010-09-10T17:44:24.478+02:00Dedene, to be fair, this happened in a big town do...Dedene, to be fair, this happened in a big town dormitory suburb, but out here in the sticks while most people are very nice indeed there has always been a 'rough' element who plague the locality generally.<br /><br />The incident I've written about really took me aback....because, a bit like your village's association night, most people who run events are super, so to be subjected to this aggression was something totally unexpected. <br /><br />No doubt it could have happened in any country...it just happened to be France!the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-47975626587585603342010-09-10T17:30:29.579+02:002010-09-10T17:30:29.579+02:00I live in the country as well, but honestly I'...I live in the country as well, but honestly I've never run into anything like that! Of course, there are the surly teenagers, but otherwise, people have always been quite cordial.<br />I'm so sorry this has been your experience here. It's not right and it's a shame for France.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-78249536318432897082010-09-10T14:45:37.421+02:002010-09-10T14:45:37.421+02:00choochoo, Tourist France can be very rude indeed.....choochoo, Tourist France can be very rude indeed...poor Japanese!<br /><br />Lesley, I expect that most people take it for granted that someone greets them....but, as with Didier, I do notice that it is becoming less prevalent.<br /><br />Trisha, locally, the problems are with the chasse and the rising breed of young rural yob...Didier says it's because they don't have to work the way he did, live on the dole and have the leisure and energy to make themselves unpleasant.<br />Mark you, Didier also reckons anyone from over the departmental line is an 'etranger'....the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-22316227141248388742010-09-10T11:12:19.920+02:002010-09-10T11:12:19.920+02:00So unfortunate for you, I have heard that there ar...So unfortunate for you, I have heard that there are some areas in the 'France Profonde', as you have so delicately put it, where the locals do not take kindly to 'l'etrangers'. We are fortunate as in the decade we have been here we have found only one obstructive/rude 'personne' and she was in the Hotel des Impots. Our locals, both in the town as well as village, have always been polite to us - but what they think or say when we have left them - well who knows!!Trishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14456012541796765737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-80369344633465209172010-09-10T09:48:32.416+02:002010-09-10T09:48:32.416+02:00We often get seated in our regular restos at a tab...We often get seated in our regular restos at a table close-ish to the door as we are the official ''Greeters of Bonjour'' to later customers.<br />We are on the elderly side, but once greeted we always get a reply!<br />Probably think we are daft anglaises.Lesleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-4703629183756658662010-09-10T08:23:23.857+02:002010-09-10T08:23:23.857+02:00I remember reading an article a while back saying ...I remember reading an article a while back saying that many Japanese tourists had to receive psychological help after visiting France, because they were unprepared for the rude treatment. I thought that sounded odd at the time, but maybe not. lol. I think people are getting more rude all over, though, for whatever reason. But since I've moved to Denmark, I have noticed that cashieres are often ruder here than they were back home. Strange.choochoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17994404946009103090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-53874428681268165862010-09-10T06:18:17.232+02:002010-09-10T06:18:17.232+02:00Ayak, Turks, whether in Turkey or in France, have ...Ayak, Turks, whether in Turkey or in France, have always been super for me..kind, helpful and sympathetic.<br />The older people in rural France are super too..but as they die out we have their grandchildren..rural yobs, out of control.the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-86434902171865335232010-09-10T06:08:35.751+02:002010-09-10T06:08:35.751+02:00I think it's really sad that basic good manner...I think it's really sad that basic good manners seem to have disappeared. I haven't been to France for many years, and although I did enjoy my holidays there, I have to admit that I did often find the French very rude and bad mannered. (Unlike the majority of Turks of course)Ayakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16903896106779269050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-36225379145671478422010-09-09T21:49:37.864+02:002010-09-09T21:49:37.864+02:00Another Day of Crazy, I suppose it's the backl...Another Day of Crazy, I suppose it's the backlash from the time when as kids we were constantly reminded of our lack of importance....as if there was any chance to forget it!the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-63851506580555694452010-09-09T21:43:35.112+02:002010-09-09T21:43:35.112+02:00I believe it's a reflection of the world's...I believe it's a reflection of the world's society at large, not just that of one country or another. Pity, isn't it? Youth have little to no respect these days, and as far children... well, I think a great majority are coddled to the point of being self-important.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-77590494226709744672010-09-09T20:34:12.799+02:002010-09-09T20:34:12.799+02:00Lo, not quite the vision of 'la belle France&#...Lo, not quite the vision of 'la belle France' to which we are accustomed, I agree! <br /><br />I've been enjoying your blog...and that china cabinet!the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-21189271488338546302010-09-09T19:23:08.882+02:002010-09-09T19:23:08.882+02:00I am horrified and devastated. No more dreams of ...I am horrified and devastated. No more dreams of moving to France for me.<br /><br />Great post though.Lohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08398370059689865989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-90103742325332347982010-09-09T19:19:55.248+02:002010-09-09T19:19:55.248+02:00Steve...whoops...that was in answer to the first o...Steve...whoops...that was in answer to the first one, not the second!the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-33945407212648628902010-09-09T19:18:37.817+02:002010-09-09T19:18:37.817+02:00Steve, and how right you are!Steve, and how right you are!the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-8437264484810660422010-09-09T19:15:30.994+02:002010-09-09T19:15:30.994+02:00Although my spelling / typing leaves a lot to be d...Although my spelling / typing leaves a lot to be desired.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133900289384226725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-6498538831267435682010-09-09T19:15:02.711+02:002010-09-09T19:15:02.711+02:00See. As an ever polite, dapper Englishman, I knew ...See. As an ever polite, dapper Englishman, I knew I had a reason to feel superiro over the damned Frenchies! ;-)Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133900289384226725noreply@blogger.com