tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post7524971487604852741..comments2024-01-12T00:35:16.941+01:00Comments on French Leave: Shining a light on your French electricity billthe fly in the webhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-35387645901023634502012-04-06T22:24:29.049+02:002012-04-06T22:24:29.049+02:00Yes, it is a typical French structure...you load o...Yes, it is a typical French structure...you load on all sorts of subsidies into a utility bill...and then pile VAT on as you go along...the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-66621622689150814922012-04-06T20:13:30.518+02:002012-04-06T20:13:30.518+02:00Interesting post, Fly, thank you. What irked me mo...Interesting post, Fly, thank you. What irked me most in France was that on both EDF/GDF and water bills you pay for local and regional taxes and then your VAT is calculated on top!. So you pay value-added-tax on tax!Vickynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-1231486610469722982012-04-03T16:58:55.976+02:002012-04-03T16:58:55.976+02:00Yes...a bit more complicated for year round living...Yes...a bit more complicated for year round living!<br />I've just been reading one of these newsletters telling Americans how cheap it is to live in France...apparently you can cut your electricity costs dramatically by using woodburners.<br />There is no mention of the price of wood....the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-82633010711604997932012-04-03T16:50:42.401+02:002012-04-03T16:50:42.401+02:00Makes me glad that we still manage to run our litt...Makes me glad that we still manage to run our little cottage on a 3kWh abonnement, Fly - lower standing charge but slightly higher unit cost. In summer that doesn't amount to much, thank goodness.Perpetuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01214396019726161983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-27045944470391301422012-04-03T02:48:29.538+02:002012-04-03T02:48:29.538+02:00It certainly does...and directs supply to France w...It certainly does...and directs supply to France when France has problems...the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-3956152207900878042012-04-02T23:46:05.076+02:002012-04-02T23:46:05.076+02:00Doesn't EDF run some of our electricity here i...Doesn't EDF run some of our electricity here in England too? Not my supplier, luckily, from the sound of it.Jenny Woolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16881781466502273314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-66633581862483019472012-04-01T21:52:18.206+02:002012-04-01T21:52:18.206+02:00The public sector equivalent of the CE is the comi...The public sector equivalent of the CE is the comite paritaire technique.<br /><br />It doesn't generally get much bunce - similar reasons to Scotland and if there is any money the councillors prefer to spend it on themselves - and the hold of the big five unions is diluted by the presence of a lot of smaller unions who do not, in the public sector, have to produce proof that they represent people as is obligatory in the private sector.<br /><br />There are exceptions in some of the major cities, of course.the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-42164603945193388082012-04-01T20:57:47.033+02:002012-04-01T20:57:47.033+02:00Impressive stuff. Does the equivalent of the loca...Impressive stuff. Does the equivalent of the local council also have to provide for their staff?...cause they provide sod all in Scotland for fear of being seen as providing perks and thus incurring the wrath of their constituents.fatdogwalkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04894891956037110152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-67151892328923687472012-03-31T21:49:27.422+02:002012-03-31T21:49:27.422+02:00Yes, hideous things. Aesthetic crimes.
Astonishin...Yes, hideous things. Aesthetic crimes.<br /><br />Astonishing indeed. And taken for granted.<br /><br />This is only the tip of the iceberg. <br />What about grants to young farmers effectively only going through one farmers' union?<br />And boss's representatives on public bodies voting through training projects which their companies will run?<br /><br />Lots more....the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-74909959579564862982012-03-31T21:29:43.679+02:002012-03-31T21:29:43.679+02:00Thats actually sort of astonishing. Oh and I agre...Thats actually sort of astonishing. Oh and I agree about the darn windfarmers - dreadful things, but then you already know I think that.The bike shedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05195882998271591934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-8421053024769986172012-03-31T04:31:53.334+02:002012-03-31T04:31:53.334+02:00Sounds about right to me...Sounds about right to me...the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-54273700305092183632012-03-30T19:35:35.410+02:002012-03-30T19:35:35.410+02:00When I last checked one of my bills, only half of ...When I last checked one of my bills, only half of it was for electricity.Mark In Mayennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14987723233401368368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-91115647570233513402012-03-29T15:35:27.899+02:002012-03-29T15:35:27.899+02:00It really makes you see why people are tempted not...It really makes you see why people are tempted not to be honest, doesn't it!the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-5814649423560778012012-03-29T15:29:25.576+02:002012-03-29T15:29:25.576+02:00And of course the same thing happens here Fly..bei...And of course the same thing happens here Fly..being cut off..but it still leaves money owed, and I assume they are determined to recover it.<br /><br />I discovered this information on a forum by the way, not officially, but no-one disputed it, and several people said they were already aware that it happens.Ayakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16903896106779269050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-31945649908726498112012-03-29T15:25:53.514+02:002012-03-29T15:25:53.514+02:00The mind boggles, it really does!
Here, if you don...The mind boggles, it really does!<br />Here, if you don't pay after being given a reminder you are cut off. That's it.<br /><br />apart from the people who have connected themselves to someone else's supply, of course...the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-19768133152319991802012-03-29T15:21:16.062+02:002012-03-29T15:21:16.062+02:00Interesting. I did hear recently that our electri...Interesting. I did hear recently that our electricity bills include an amount that goes towards paying for electricity consumed by people who haven't paid their bills. I'm wondering if I'm being stupid when I am always anxious to pay mine on time.Ayakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16903896106779269050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-50842440346421726092012-03-29T14:33:52.601+02:002012-03-29T14:33:52.601+02:00It will remind you that all is not as it seems in ...It will remind you that all is not as it seems in the French world of smoke and mirrors.the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-60306101170368323592012-03-29T14:33:11.268+02:002012-03-29T14:33:11.268+02:00Yes, it's nice to know why you're paying s...Yes, it's nice to know why you're paying so much, isn't it...the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-644424868047558202012-03-29T14:32:38.908+02:002012-03-29T14:32:38.908+02:00It's a real perversion of the idea of the Colo...It's a real perversion of the idea of the Colonies de Vacances...the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-73627285921062907442012-03-29T14:30:42.072+02:002012-03-29T14:30:42.072+02:00Three more and she gets a medal, I believe....a me...Three more and she gets a medal, I believe....a measure dating from the Vichy years.<br />There's a lot worse then this....just see what happens to your URSAFF contributions...the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-19445341195186696932012-03-29T14:29:14.207+02:002012-03-29T14:29:14.207+02:00Centuries of practice, that's what it is...and...Centuries of practice, that's what it is...and where do they think furriners got the idea from anyway?<br />France was a wonderful apprenticeship for Costa Rica....what Costa Rica thinks of as corruption is small change compared with France!the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-18434325175544154962012-03-29T14:27:43.483+02:002012-03-29T14:27:43.483+02:00For goodness' sake don't give them ideas, ...For goodness' sake don't give them ideas, Steve! There'd be VAT on it as well...the fly in the webhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04563871975125538755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-47344714583827025612012-03-29T14:02:20.815+02:002012-03-29T14:02:20.815+02:00This post is getting printed out and put into my F...This post is getting printed out and put into my French file. What good it will do, I don't know, but I don't want to forget! Thanks, Fly!The Broadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04976467218216864644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-39651434462601006792012-03-29T13:09:38.324+02:002012-03-29T13:09:38.324+02:00Oh joy, I knew there was a 'good' reason f...Oh joy, I knew there was a 'good' reason for our lovely EDF bill!Niall & Antoinettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12699304108340257145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6021650718999668529.post-18094850122530957692012-03-29T10:01:29.057+02:002012-03-29T10:01:29.057+02:00They use the money to send their kids cheaply to h...They use the money to send their kids cheaply to holiday camps too. CE subsidise that plus a whole load of other perks. Unbelievable really.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13195684182481935384noreply@blogger.com